Song arranged and performed by LIZ KATRIN (https://lizkatrinmusic.com) for SKYWIND (The Elder Scrolls mod). When it comes to the nature of stasis consider these qoutes: These twin forces go by many names: Anu-Padomay, Anuiel-Sithis, Ak-El, Satak-Akel, Is-Is Not.- Monomyth, Long, long ago, before there were any people at all; even before the gods, Tamriel was chosen as a battleground by two -- things. Lyrics in Dunmeri by Will "Smitehammer" Jordan. Vivec is a liar for him and he doesn’t believe his Lessons (though he couldn’t prove that they are all a big lie when I asked him to), as well as all my words. Online, everywhere. 2) Am I right when I say that stasis is a state with no changes in a physic sense? Remember that Nibani Maesa said that Dagoth Ur is dead but dreams he lives? Given that, Dagoth Ur and the Dwemer, and perhaps importantly the Numidium and Akulakhan, have quite different agendas. Hortator is an ancient Dunmeri position which is essentially a "Commander-in-Chief" for the unified milit. Which of the ones is the more important? This is why the Sharmat is a False Dreamer, because they are not the Dreamer but trying to become one, and make the self, the “centre” of Sermon 11, the core of all being. As a result of this, Miraak has been equated with the Sharmat by several fans. "Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. Okay, I guess now all the prehistory is clear. Well it's been a while since I touched on this. However, mortals are naturally inclined to fall prey to the temptations of the Heart of Lorkhan, and this happened to Voryn Dagoth. I believe that like the Hortator and Sharmat, Konahrik/Vahlok would have won the battle if only Hermaeus Mora didn't snatch Miraak away at the last moment. The Sharmat is always opposed by the Hortator. Take a second to support Aramithius on Patreon! That subversion of what already exists isn’t the NO of nonexistence, it’s the corruption of existence into a single form. I can and that is why you will need me. We just can’t see it in Morrowind. About the points you said you didn't understand. the same with Hortator and Lorkhan), got his powers from a padomaic artifact? The Sharmat is his double, and therefore you wonder if you rule nothing. I can and that is why you will need me. Nerevar had been dead, then who else could play Hortator besides, for example, Vivec? 7) Also, is Sharmat… um… how to say… not a role, but a thing that everyone can become? 3) Am I right when I say that Vivec ‘kept’ or ‘held’ the place of Hortator before the last Nerevarine came to Vvardenfell to equal the Number of Master? There’s another meaning to this in TES metaphysics, but we’ll get to that later. 3) Am I right when I say that Vivec ‘kept’ or ‘held’ the place of Hortator before the last Nerevarine came to Vvardenfell to equal the Number of Master? “First Blighter” is harder to explain away, though. "According to the Codes of Mephala, there is no difference between the theorist and the terrorist. the same with Hortator and Lorkhan), got his powers from a padomaic artifact? However, it isn't because the title of Hortator or Nerevarine necessarily endows the title-bearer with special powers required for defeating Dagoth Ur. Dagoth Ur has the same powers as each individual within the Tribunal. Rather think of it as a debate and aim to make your position and arguments clear to the crowd. Has anyone compiled a story that squares with all accounts by calling out certain lies and distortions? “The Sharmat… lurking. Hear me...Not now… not yet. His goal is to be at the center, to be at everything. And why wasn't the wraithmail idea put in the game, damnit? They understand they are in the Dream, but are not connected to everyone else. That the Rebel will defeat the King, but we do not know who the Rebel and King are until the Observer decides which is which. 11) If my viewpoint in the 3 question is right, then, did/could Vivec give his Hortator place to Nerevarine with giving the Wraithguard? “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. Another one connected with previous: how could it happen that a simulacrum of Auriel, Sharmat (is he or not, by the way? Don't aim to defeat people. Sharmat/Hortator are not representative of Anuiel/Auriel or Sithis/Lorkhan, respectively. Is it only a source of god powers or a source of sharmatic powers? It's where your interests connect you with your people. But so yeah. The role of Hortator and Sharmat were once vital to the traditions of the Chimer. Until then, this podcast reamins a letter written in uncertainty. And I believe … This is made it’s most explicit in Sermon 11 of the 36 Lessons, which says: “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. I was trying to convince him for three days or so that Hortator and Sharmat do have, like, powers, that only Hortator can defeat Sharmat and stuff like that. The bigger picture involves Azura and the Tribunal. However, Enrico Dandolo has also pointed out that the Akkadian phrase “king of the land” can be constructed as “shar mat”. - Within the context of the Elder Scrolls Universe, it is important to realize that it is bound by a different set of Physical Laws than our very own. Cryptic religious writings with room for open-ended interpretations to be constructed lends itself quite well to strengthening any organized religion, it seems. Also, he somehow compares Nirn and Earth, like, because they can be compared… Truly, I don’t understand his logic. Seduction would be a valid way to defeat the Hortator. It explains the existence of the Tribunal gods and Dagoth Ur and provides a vunrability of Dagoth Ur that comes at a great cost to the Tribunal. Writings can be found in some of the dwemer ruins that show the servants of Dagoth Ur to believe this, calling him 'the land, the moon and the stars' if I remember correctly. The fire. Did you ever consider that Ghostfence was built not only to keep Sixth House contained, but also to *protect* entrance to very heart which sustained their very powers? :). It was most likely an FSG piece, maybe one that didn't cary over to the new site. 6) Am I… no, that wouldn’t be here. He did, however, give his unrequited acceptance of self-destruction with the giving of Wraithguard. The Sharmat gets called the “false dreamer” several times in the 36 Lessons, and is associated with “the wrong walking path” in Sermon 15. That man’s (let’s call him Mike) position is: there is no mysterious Sharmat and Hortator, they aren’t connected to Anuiel/Auriel and Sithis/Lorkhan accordingly anyhow, and the final — all these theories are stupid and my goal is to lie and tangle everyone. Is it a mirror of the void or not? They are not untouchable, supernatural beings, but are, in fact, very physical beings from which the physical laws of the Elder Scrolls Universe are anchored around (spokes within a wheel within a wheel theory). The biggest support for this is Miraak’s chant: <“Here in my temple, here in my shrine, that you have forgotten. Could you ever tell if they switched places? Before saying what I want to say, I should warn you — my English is somewhat you call sick. If we look at some of Nibani Maesa’s words, I think we will get a bit more of an answer. The Sharmat and the Hortator merely represent competing interests on a small scale. "Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. This theory takes that idea that Dagoth Ur is actually dead, and the heart is what’s steering him. "According to the Codes of Mephala, there is no difference between the theorist and the terrorist. Like the Light and the Dark, the pattern of the Hortator and Sharmat sets up two elements in opposition, but I'm not sure where to place the Tribunal in this pattern, but on the mythic scale they were no obstacle. I can and that is why you will need me.”. The Sharmat, or at least Dagoth Ur, literally transforms the land through his presence, so it fits that whole idea quite well. 7) Also, is Sharmat… um… how to say… not a role, but a thing that everyone can become? :( Still, what role does Lorkhan’s Heart play? What to do with it? She says that Dagoth Ur is “dead, but he dreams he lives”. Hortatory definition, urging to some course of conduct or action; exhorting; encouraging: a hortatory speech. 8) Yeah, too many questions… Sorry. History is understanding. In point 3 I meant that Vivec could replace Nerevar and be a deputy or a sort of place-keeper of Hortator without really being (or playing) its role just to keep balance. He is opposed by the Hortator. That argument has ended a long time ago, but still, I'm interested in some points. … What to do with it? If anything, the only true competing forces to ever exist were Sharmat+Tribunal VS. Time, as it was only a matter of time before the Heart was destroyed. “According to the Codes of Mephala, there is no difference between the theorist and the terrorist. Here do you toil, that you might remember. There is no argument in the world that can convince a person that does not want to be convinced. The idea of Anti-CHIM is that the Sharmat looks on the Aurbic Wheel, the wheel thatis the spokes of the Aedra, the gaps in between of the Daedra and the hub of Mundus, and assumes that they are the entirety of the I, that they are not part of the Dream, but that the Dream is part of them. Sharmat and Hortator, they are just roles for people to play, anybody can play. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Elder Scrolls Lore Close Reads: The Five Songs of King Wulfharth. Discover morrowind playlists | Playmoss playlists. It is also important to realize that Sharmat is simply another name for Dagoth Ur, either created as a propaganda term by the Tribunal to limit followers giving faith in the Sixth house, or as a leadership title brought about by Dagoth Ur and then subsequently given a negative connotation by the Tribunal. In this, the 36 Lessons are calling out that Hortator and Sharmat are two parts of an enantiomorph, and highlighting that they are two roles in an ongoing cycle of conflict. Share your thoughts, experiences and the tales behind the art. Am I… no, that wouldn’t be here. Yeah, too many questions… Sorry. However, it isn't because the title of Hortator or Nerevarine necessarily endows the title-bearer with special powers required for defeating Dagoth Ur. I call them the Light and the Dark. We also have another Blighter in the 36 Lessons, although we know very little about him for sure. I think there’s the intent to involve that sort of creeping fear and so on into the thematic of Dagoth Ur, particularly the cultish stuff, where dreams are also frequently invoked, but there’s also a deeper Elder Scrolls theme going on here. Could you ever tell if they switched places? “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. “Hortator and Sharmat, one and one, eleven, an inelegant number. It was a walking star , which burnt the armies of the Triune and destroyed the heartland of Veloth , creating the Inner Sea . Power is derived not from an external source but from acting in these roles in such a way that the conflict resembles that of Anu and Padomay. HIs powers and ideology seem a little simpler than the Dwemer, so it could be that the Dwemer came to epitomise a form of cultural villain that the Nords had previously filled. Does that mean that what one wants is the goal of the other one and vice versa? Everywhere and everywhen. As I recall, Ur was with the Tribunal, so much so that Nerevar charged him with protecting the heart while he (N) confered with the Tribunal. It is also important to realize that Sharmat is simply another name for Dagoth Ur, either created as a propaganda term by the Tribunal to limit followers giving faith in the Sixth house, or as. I'm still not very sure about understanting all those things, because I always considered Sharmat and Hortator essenses or levels of being a person can become/reach due to some specific rituals. Am I right or not? Today on Written in Uncertainty we’re talking about an enemy of the Chimer and Dunmer people, who has stalked throughout their history, haunted their dreams, and threatens to remake not just Morrowind, but also the entire Aurbis from the inside out. Which of the ones is the more important? Red Mountain exploded as the Hortator went too far inside, seeking the Sharmat. The word also gets used by Nibani Maesa, an Ashlander Wise Woman that you speak to in The Elder Scrolls III, suggesting that the Sharmat is a more long-standing enemy than just the Tribunal temple. Did you ever consider that Ghostfence was built not only to keep Sixth House contained, but also to *protect* entrance to very heart which sustained their very powers? This downright impossible ( mainly because of those darn illiterate Nords ) as I remember Heart. ) fundamental, and Sotha Sil including Dagoth Ur playlists including Dagoth Ur ( and, sorry I... 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